Posted by PattiM on
A number of firms looking to make easy money supposedly fixing your debt problem are vigorously soliciting Mortgage Brokers and Mortgage Agents looking for you as a referral client.
They offer the broker/agent as much as half of the fee they are going to charge you. That’s right they will charge you a hefty fee — see further for how it is calculated.
Their fee is based on 50% of the amount they intend to save you.
Here is an excerpt from their pitch to the brokers and agents:
“Debt arbitration is our primary product, though which we are able to significantly reduce our clients debt loads by leveraging their financial hardship with a lump sum payment.”
They go on to say:
“As financial hardship is often the reason our clients come to us, few have the resources available to make a lump sum payment on their own, thus mortgage financing – either refinancing a current mortgage or obtaining a second mortgage – is a crucial element to the service we provide.”
These so called “lump sum settlements” are supposed to improve your situation beyond that of a Consumer Proposal (see our information on Consumer Proposals good or bad). The fact is you may be much better off in bankruptcy considering, on average people, filing bankruptcy or a consumer proposal still keep their home. (you need to know how to keep your home in bankruptcy)
They also claim — “Our average reduction saves the client 60% of the original balance.”
So let’s run some numbers:
Suppose you owe $80,000 on lines of credit and credit card debt.
If they save you $60% — you will have to pay out $32,000 in lump sum settlements.
Theoretically you will save $48,000, but wait, remember their fee is 50% of the saved amount or in this example — $24,000.
HST is due on that amount $24,000 @ 13% — add another $3,120.
That means ($32,000 settlement amount + $24,000 fees + $3,120 tax) = $59,120.
Now you are paying at 74% of your $80,000 debt
Realistically you need a mortgage for this amount plus the cost of borrowing.
Since you have bad credit you will only qualify for a 2nd mortgage with a private lender — current rates average 15% plus 2% lender fee plus broker fee average another $1,500 plus legal costs to register the mortgage et cetera — average $1,500
Round off the mortgage to $60,000 plus lender fee $1,200 and we get (60,000 + 1,200 + 1500 +1500) or $64,200 @15% for 1 year or $9,600
Total needed $73,800 or 92% of what you owe.
You need to do the math before signing on these porous lines.
What will the broker get for this? Well, they get $12,000 plus the mortgage arrangement fee of $1500 = $13,500
The debt solution company is paying for your referral at 50% of the fee they charge you to the referring agent or $12,000 each.
This is a quote from their document “we offer up to 50% of our fee (25% of the savings negotiated for the client) to the referring partner.”
The fee fluctuates as some creditors don’t settle for the 40% offer.
Also these companies seldom care if all of your debt is not settled. Quite often creditors refuse to settle and continue their own collection action.
Read this quote on limited liability:
Signator understands that in certain cases negotiations will fail, in which case Signator hereby releases and indemnifies “the company” from any and all claims by the Signator for a failure to achieve such an understanding with creditors. In addition, Signator understands that although “the company” will act as Attorney-in-fact on behalf of Signator, no liability is assumed by “the company” for any claims or damages against Signator by creditors, past present or future. “the company” assumes no liability for any creditor action initiated as either direct or indirect result of ‘the companies’ efforts.
To establish themselves as a ‘Licenced’ entity and pretend they are not ‘Collection Agents’ they make statements like this:
“anyone charging a fee for such a service must be licensed by the Ministry of Consumer Services — Protection Branch. The license is offered as a Collection Agency license and governed as such, meaning all stipulations of the Collection Agencies Act and Regulations apply”
Contact the registrar for Collection Agents and Collection Companies and they will tell you there is no such ‘Licence’ in existence.
For a free consultation by an Accredited Insolvency Counsellor and fully LICENCED Mortgage Agent please contact us at here or call 613-475-6480
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You have a decent job, decent income, you work hard but never seem to be able to feel financial security. What are you missing? You are likely suffering from one or more common undiagnosed financial problems of your own making. The good news is, since you made the problem, you can correct the problem.
Let’s have a brief look at the problems you may be suffering from:
Not Planning – Planning finances isn’t as much fun as planning vacations but your finances will be around a lot longer. We have a tendency to procrastinate and we’re no different when it comes to our finances. We let credit card balances accumulate instead of getting serious about getting them paid off, we put money into investments and then never get around to examining if we’re getting a decent return on our investment. Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Overspending — The average Canadian only saves about 5% of their income. Many Canadians have no idea where their money goes and don’t make an effort to track it. Being deliberate about determining the difference between needs and wants is vital to learning to reign in spending and start putting those hard earned dollars into savings. WAIT! There is more to read… read on »
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Almost any material you read about how to deal with debt will tell you to talk to your creditors, your banker and/or your mortgage company. Your creditors may be willing to be patient for a month or two but when you are in a situation which doesn’t have a defined endpoint, don’t hold your breath on your creditors being kind and understanding. Let’s have a look at your other sources of information.
Usually the first thought you have when your finances start to go off track is to appeal to your banker for help. The most common form of that ‘help’ is to consolidate your debts into one loan so you can pay it off with one payment a month.
That sounds like it would really be the ticket out of the problem. Keep in mind, your banker has a job to do, to sell you banking services and helping their employer make a profit. You need to explore very carefully how much the difference in interest costs would be to determine if you would actually benefit from a consolidation loan.
If the total interest is not substantially lower, you are in fact incurring more debt while you are trying to wrestle the total load into the ground, that is not a benefit.
My suggestion: inquire if you would qualify for a consolidation loan but don’t commit until you have explored all your possibilities and carefully examined the total costs. A diversified list of debts is actually to your advantage. Once you consolidate and then start having difficulty meeting your payments, your available options become fewer.
WAIT! There is more to read… read on »
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We’re being hammered by a recession, jobs disappear in a flash but the debts we owe continue to climb. What is a person to do?
You’re used to being able to find credit and the first impulse is usually to go find more credit — consolidation loans or home equity loans. With interest rates being low, that seems to be a logical way to deal with those debts, as long as you are working and the rates stay low. In this volatile economy, you have no guarantee either a job or low interest rates will be stable.
There are options to dealing with your debts based on your ability to pay. The most important step you can take right now is — DON’T Panic! Take a deep breath and take a good look at the situation. WAIT! There is more to read… read on »
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We’ve been sadly neglecting this blog. We know that. Somehow it just seems other work takes priority. Well, we’ve set a goal of at least one post per week in 2010. I’ve been doing some tinkering behind the scenes updating the site and will soon be posting an article.
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Posted by Bill on
As an Insolvency Counsellor I have counselled literally thousands of individuals and business operators over the years on the principals of good money management. The problem is that I usually don’t see these people until after they have become insolvent or have reached a point where they need to file a Consumer Proposal (Orderly Repayment of Debt) or perhaps they are being forced into bankruptcy.
So, I thought it might help our site visitors if I wrote about restoring credit; what works, and what never works.
Unpaid Credit Cards:
Perhaps you have defaulted on credit card payments. A Collection Agent has been assigned to your account and is demanding payments. Let’s say you have not paid for 6 months or more and they are threatening to garnish your wages, or sue you. At this stage you have an “R9” rating at the Credit Bureaus which is the equivalent of being bankrupt. That’s right, it is the same as if you had filed bankruptcy, but it gets worse. WAIT! There is more to read… read on »
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Credit Support Services is here to help you deal with your debts.
When bills get harder and harder to pay, life seems to be overwhelming. It doesn’t have to be, there are ways for you to manage your debt without you getting in over your head. That is where we can help, we’re here to represent you. We analyse your situation and recommend the options that would best fit you.
The objective is that you manage the debt instead of it managing you.